Part 1: Policing For Tomorrow With Steve Gregory

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Policing for Tomorrow is an ongoing exploration of policing and how it might change in light of recent protests and demands.

The program will feature stakeholders from on all sides of the issue - law enforcement, critics, protesters, trainers, politicians and the public.

Policing for Tomorrow is a production of KFI News and is hosted by KFI News Correspondent Steve Gregory and produced by Steve Gregory and Jacob Gonzalez.

Alfred Pasos

Captain III
Force Investigation Division

Captain Al Pasos was born in East Los Angeles. He was raised in Los Angeles, Pasadena and Altadena. After attending Saint Francis High School, he attended the University of La Verne acquiring his Bachelor's degree in 1986. He joined the LAPD in 1987 and worked all bureaus within the city before promoting to Sergeant in 1998 and to Lieutenant in 2008. As a Lieutenant, he worked Central Division until being assigned to the Office of Operations. Prior to being promoted to Captain, he was assigned to the Office of the Special Assistant for Constitutional Policing.

Captain Pasos most recent assignment was as the Commanding Officer of Southwest Patrol Division. He is currently assigned as the Commanding Officer of Southeast Patrol Division. He has attended the Sherman Block Supervisory Leadership Institute and is a member of the Latin America Law Enforcement Association. He has received numerous commendations and has been awarded the Police Star.

You can listen to his conversation with Steve Gregory below:

Lt. Robbie Williams

Community Affairs Bureau, Hawthorne PD

Lieutenant Robbie Williams is a 23-year veteran with the Hawthorne Police Department and was the Community Affairs Unit, Supervisor. He is currently assigned as a Patrol Watch Commander. After Captain Kauffman left HPD to become the Chief at the Redondo Beach Police Department in 2015, Lieutenant Williams has been the main National Instructor (with Sgt. Cognac) for the Coffee with a Cop training classes.

Currently, he leads efforts to bridge relations between the police and citizens, including initiatives like hosting Crime Prevention Workshops for business owners and community members.

Lieutenant Williams has taught Community Orientated Policing and Introduction to Criminal Justice at the community college level and is a recipient of the 2015 Homer L. Garrott Community Service Award. Lieutenant Williams is a graduate of the Sherman Block Leadership Institute and the California State University Los Angeles Edmund G. Brown Institute for Public Affairs “Problem-Oriented Policing” program.

Jason Armstrong

Chief Ferguson Police Department, Missouri

Chief Jason Armstrong has recently stepped up to lead the Ferguson Police department after 17 years of police experience in Forest Park, Georgia. He strongly advocates officer education, but also supports their wellness, particularly in the areas of financial planning and physical fitness. Positive community outreach remains one of Chief Armstrong’s priorities. He sees law enforcement as an opportunity to make a positive impact within his community and takes advantage of the chance to speak with community members who have a negative perception of law enforcement.

Toward this end, he partnered with barbershops and hair salons to present information about law enforcement in an informal and welcoming forum where certain community demographics might be more comfortable, an initiative that drew excellent feedback.

Chief Armstrong also believes that it is important to speak with other officers about how they should not ignore the community’s feelings or perceptions about what is happening within their community. During his time as interim chief of police of Forest Park Police Department in 2018, Chief Armstrong helped to implement the 21st Century Policing Model to guide the organization’s focus on procedural justice. Within the next three months, Chief Armstrong noticed the lowest crime rates in over 20 years in the Forest Park area.


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